A transcript of the chat I had with a 2old2play admit concerning admission into their clan on 3/28/06
6:57 pearly_54: Hi guy, i’m captain of 2old2play
6:57 gnawph: oh, hey pearly
6:58 gnawph: need my tix for the league?
6:58 pearly_54: yeh, but let me get you admitted
6:59 gnawph: ok, well I’m already a member of a pdc clan, so I don’t think I can join the official mtgo one
6:59 gnawph: is that going to be a problem?
6:59 pearly_54: i don’t think you can be in two clans
6:59 gnawph: yeah
6:59 gnawph: I mean MTGO wise
7:00 pearly_54: nope, can’t
7:00 gnawph: ok, well that just means I can’t use the clan chatroom
7:00 gnawph: thats not that bad
7:00 pearly_54: you can use the clan chat room here in game
7:01 pearly_54: that’s not a problem
7:01 gnawph: yeah
7:08 pearly_54: I hate to say this, but if you are not in our clan, you can’t join our league
7:10 gnawph: you mean if I can’t join the MTGO clan
7:10 gnawph: aren’t there 5 of them?
7:10 pearly_54: not unless you quit the one you are in
7:10 gnawph: won’t league communications primarly be on another channel?
7:10 gnawph: so your saying I can’t be in two clans at once?
7:10 pearly_54: that’s right
7:10 gnawph: why is that?
7:11 pearly_54: MTGO rules, not mine
7:11 gnawph: right
7:11 gnawph: but I can be a member of 2old2play without being inside your clan
7:11 gnawph: the “mtgo clan”
7:11 gnawph: please don’t let a technical limitation stop me from playing in your league
7:18 pearly_54: sorry, got distracted
7:18 gnawph: sure
7:27 pearly_54: it has always been the rules
7:29 pearly_54: again, got distracted
7:29 pearly_54: i am having problems with my PC and i am on my laptop
7:32 gnawph: where are the rules?
7:34 pearly_54: just simply that you must be a member of 2old2plau MTGO, one of the branch clans
7:34 gnawph: where is that rule written?
7:35 gnawph: that seems awefully vague and unfair to members with other clans
7:36 gnawph: being in a official “mtgo clan” provides nothing more than a chat room
7:36 gnawph: with a very limited membership
7:36 gnawph: as I see you have multiple 2old2play mtgo clans
7:37 gnawph: so even IF I was a part of one of them, I still wouldn’t have the benefit of chatting with the entire clan
7:37 pearly_54: no, that is not true
7:37 gnawph: what isn’t true?
7:37 pearly_54: we are all one big clan, but MTGO only allows 20 people per clan
7:38 gnawph: right
7:38 gnawph: I’m trying to point out that the benefit of being in a “mtgo clan” is extremely minumal
7:38 pearly_54: you can chat with all of us, you can play with us, but, unless you drop the clan you are in, you cannot join our clan
7:38 gnawph: why?
7:38 gnawph: what if MTGO didn’t have a clan feature?
7:38 pearly_54: in game, that is
7:39 gnawph: what does joning the “mtgo clan” have to do with playing magic as part of a community?
7:39 pearly_54: that would actually solve the problem
7:39 gnawph: not having a clan feature?
7:39 pearly_54: yes, ;probably
7:39 gnawph: why don’t you just not use MTGO clans
7:40 gnawph: they are pretty useless, I agreed to start one with some testing buddies, and I’d hate to just ditch them
7:40 gnawph: for 2old2play, I mean its important to them to have a “clan” not me
7:40 pearly_54: we have a website that you might want to visit, with 8000 members
7:40 gnawph: I’m a member
7:40 pearly_54: yep
7:41 pearly_54: but clans have rules and as clan leader I can’t make exceptions
7:41 pearly_54: why is it so important to play in this league?
7:41 gnawph: I never saw a rule about being in a “mtgo clan”
7:41 gnawph: what?
7:41 gnawph: I want to play PDC in a league format, and expand my horizons
7:42 gnawph: show me the mtgo clan rule, and I’ll be satisfied
7:42 pearly_54: we are very casual, i don’t think this is what you are looking for
7:42 gnawph: I am very casual
7:42 gnawph: I am bad at magic, and pdc
7:42 gnawph: I enjoy the league format because it doesn’t require as much time
7:42 pearly_54: why don’t you try ?join PDC?
7:42 gnawph: playing in a PDC event now takes 4-5 hours
7:43 gnawph: even qpdc
7:43 gnawph: show me the rule that states I must be a member of your mtgo clan
